problem Guys.. plz helpe!!!!

[Naheed]

my best freind really needs helpe I dont know how to helpe her so plz give some good advice caz iam not good at it.

Her problem is: She was in love with a Iranian guy and my best friend is Pakistani her paretns were agenst this relationship/ Marrige.. so she run away with him did the Nikah and now she back home but now her Paretns dont acept their Nikah. they saying this nikah is not right acording to Islam caz the paretns were not involve in this nikah.

Now the paretns are saying if u go to that guy they will not have any contact with her any more.
Poor gilr doesnt know what to do now? and I dont know either..

So plz tell me what would any one of you do if that girl was you??
is her Nikah is right acording to Islam or her parents bluffing?? this is my question:o

[skater_boy]

i cant comment on the religion issue as i am clueless about the laws

Poor gilr doesnt know what to do now?

isn't she married ? isn't it duty of her husband to support and take of her as the parents are in no mood to take her

[Naheed]

i cant comment on the religion issue as i am clueless about the laws

Poor gilr doesnt know what to do now?

isn't she married ? isn't it duty of her husband to support and take of her as the parents are in no mood to take her


of course he will take care of her. she is there to make her paretns to accept this nikah

[CHULBUL PANDEY]

WELL EDUCATED ISLAMIC SCHOLAR CAN GIVE U THE BEST ADVISE

and in my personal opinion.....her parents shud accept her she is married nw if they tlk abt islam THEY CAN NOT FORCE HER this is wot ISLAM says .....dnt drag islam in their personal thoughts ISLAM GIVES the right to woman choose the person of her will.....................she dsnt have 2 be worry abt anythng ....

[Naheed]

WELL EDUCATED ISLAMIC SCHOLAR CAN GIVE U THE BEST ADVISE

and in my personal opinion.....her parents shud accept her she is married nw if they tlk abt islam THEY CAN NOT FORCE HER this is wot ISLAM says .....dnt drag islam in their personal thoughts ISLAM GIVES the right to woman choose the person of her will.....................she dsnt have 2 be worry abt anythng ....


soo true but her mother is threating poor girl that she will never forgive her if she go further with this marrige... I hate this stuped culture.. I know this is all culture thing is going on caz I dont think that says anything like that in Islam.. :rolleyes:

[CHULBUL PANDEY]

hr mother jus doing the typical emotional drama ... so jus tell her dnt wrry everythng gna be ok but its gna take sme tym so dnt make any stupid decision bcz she has to spend her lyf and its her lyf....

[Naheed]

hr mother jus doing the typical emotional drama ... so jus tell her dnt wrry everythng gna be ok but its gna take sme tym so dnt make any stupid decision bcz she has to spend her lyf and its her lyf....

she is scared of losing both sides:( May god helpe her

[*SALMA*]

Her Nikah is valid, for a wedding in Islam u just need two witnesses and for him to accept her as his wyf, even if they got married in a registry office then that is a valid marriage even in Islam, i didnt no this until recently and my info is from sumone who MashaAllah has a lot of knowledge on Islam and quotes the Quran and Hadith to back everything up. and lyk gi jatt has said its just emotional blackmail her parents are using.

The only thing she can do is try n persuade her parents or just leave because she is married to him and if they try n get her married to someone else widout her getting a divorce then that as u no is a grave sin.

What i dont understand if she ran away why did she come back? x

[CHULBUL PANDEY]

YES GUD question WHY DID SHE CME BAK????????????????????????????/

[Naheed]

Her Nikah is valid, for a wedding in Islam u just need two witnesses and for him to accept her as his wyf, even if they got married in a registry office then that is a valid marriage even in Islam, i didnt no this until recently and my info is from sumone who MashaAllah has a lot of knowledge on Islam and quotes the Quran and Hadith to back everything up. and lyk gi jatt has said its just emotional blackmail her parents are using.

The only thing she can do is try n persuade her parents or just leave because she is married to him and if they try n get her married to someone else widout her getting a divorce then that as u no is a grave sin.

What i dont understand if she ran away why did she come back? x


she is saying she come back only caz of allah and her mother.. caz she thinks it would be a big sin if she didnt get her blessing.


I dont know if its important to get her blessing caz her mother is still keep saying that this marrige is not valid:( really sad actuly:(

[*SALMA*]

she is saying she come back only caz of allah and her mother.. caz she thinks it would be a big sin if she didnt get her blessing.


I dont know if its important to get her blessing caz her mother is still keep saying that this marrige is not valid:( really sad actuly:(


without trying to sound harsh but if she really cared about her mother and Allah then she wudnt have done wat she done in the first place, but lyk i sed before the marriage is valid, trust me i no that better then anyone else, :)

[Devdasi]

she shud jus leave wiv her husband...
the space wud do every1 gud...
Her parents will cum round eventually...

[Naheed]

without trying to sound harsh but if she really cared about her mother and Allah then she wudnt have done wat she done in the first place, but lyk i sed before the marriage is valid, trust me i no that better then anyone else, :)


yeah your right salma sis thank you soo much:p

[Naheed]

she shud jus leave wiv her husband...
the space wud do every1 gud...
Her parents will cum round eventually...


yeah thats what i told her to go back to her husband caz leaving the husband is also big sin, caz she is not same person any more she ismarrid and she should do what er husband tells her...hope iam right about this ?:confused:

[*Amna*]

um the nikka is not "jayez" unless at least one of the parents agrees to it. you cant run away with someone and get married without ur parents consent in islam. that nikkah is not halal

Salma i dont know where ur coming from :S
because ive researched this and all the links i went to said u need at least one of the parents consent if the girl isnt a widow

[CHULBUL PANDEY]

um the nikka is not "jayez" unless at least one of the parents agrees to it. you cant run away with someone and get married without ur parents consent in islam. that nikkah is not halal

Salma i dont know where ur coming from :S
because ive researched this and all the links i went to said u need at least one of the parents consent if the girl isnt a widow


nt agree with u MS AMNA nikah needs 2 witnesses and theres no harm cud u pls give the link of ur researched bcz theres so many fiqh's welll shes married nw and shud nt leave her husband over parents nowdayand its happening every where and its parents fault........and its a different ISSUE how and why ...

[*SALMA*]

um the nikka is not "jayez" unless at least one of the parents agrees to it. you cant run away with someone and get married without ur parents consent in islam. that nikkah is not halal

Salma i dont know where ur coming from :S
because ive researched this and all the links i went to said u need at least one of the parents consent if the girl isnt a widow


I asked sum1 who MashaAllah has very good knowledge on Islam and backs everything up with quotes from Hadith and the Quran itself, for a nikah to be valid u need to two witnesses who r obviously Muslim and of sound mind. but i wil ask further to clarify, x

[*Amna*]

this is one of the links

http://www.soundvision.com/info/Islam/marriage.nikah.asp

Primary Requirements
1) Mutual agreement (Ijab-O-Qubul) by the bride and the groom
2) Two adult and sane witnesses
3) Mahr (marriage-gift) to be paid by the groom to the bride either immediately (muajjal) or deferred (muakhkhar), or a combination of both Secondary Requirements
1) Legal guardian (wakeel) representing the bride
2) Written marriage contract ("Aqd-Nikah) signed by the bride and the groom and witnesses by two adult and sane witnesses
3) Qadi (State appointed Muslim judge) or Ma'zoon (a responsible person officiating the marriage ceremony)
4) Khutba-tun-Nikah to solemnize the marriage

[CHULBUL PANDEY]

this is one of the links

http://www.soundvision.com/info/Islam/marriage.nikah.asp

Primary Requirements
1) Mutual agreement (Ijab-O-Qubul) by the bride and the groom
2) Two adult and sane witnesses
3) Mahr (marriage-gift) to be paid by the groom to the bride either immediately (muajjal) or deferred (muakhkhar), or a combination of both Secondary Requirements
1) Legal guardian (wakeel) representing the bride
2) Written marriage contract ("Aqd-Nikah) signed by the bride and the groom and witnesses by two adult and sane witnesses
3) Qadi (State appointed Muslim judge) or Ma'zoon (a responsible person officiating the marriage ceremony)
4) Khutba-tun-Nikah to solemnize the marriage

I THNIK they followed the following requirements. normally 2 witnesses and a molvi anyway thanx

[Naheed]

I asked sum1 who MashaAllah has very good knowledge on Islam and backs everything up with quotes from Hadith and the Quran itself, for a nikah to be valid u need to two witnesses who r obviously Muslim and of sound mind. but i wil ask further to clarify, x


Totaly agree.. what if a girl doesnt have any family or parents relatives.. then what should she do then???

this girl did gad 2 witness.. she did nkah both islamic and in court too

[CHULBUL PANDEY]

she is married nw and islam is nt complicated

[*Amna*]

^yea i agree with you
i was saying in general that the nikkah wouldnt be valid without parents cause thats one of the requirements
but i guess since its not a primary requirement its ok?
but it still is a secondary requirement so i dont know

[Naheed]

she is married nw and islam is nt complicated


so true.. islam is not complrcated.. if it was like that, then there would be soo many girls not married.. :(

[*SALMA*]

Hey Amna Sis i havent got round to talking to my frend.

But what i do know n dis is because its happened in my life, a relative of myn got married recently, and the girl he got married to is half white, her dad is pakistani and mum is white her mum did not revert to Islam and her parents are seperated. Anyways the girl was having probs with her step mum so she moved out n went to live with her mother. Now obviously with her mum being white she was oki with her marrying a pakistani but there was no way her father wudve agreed.

We spoke to local Imam and a couple of Pious people and they said it was oki to do the Nikah without her parents and just that we need two Muslim witnesses and a Wali basically an older person who acts as her guardian, now this person was my hubby and his not even that old, lol although i say he is lol, n nor is he related to her in anyway, and they sed thats oki.


So thats y i was saying to u that althou u shud get ur parents consent and blessing, but if u cant then the Nikah can be done without em.

I will try n get further info for u if u want. x

[CHULBUL PANDEY]

welll i pray she get sort out with her family and her family shud accept the reality

[CHULBUL PANDEY]

^yea i agree with you
i was saying in general that the nikkah wouldnt be valid without parents cause thats one of the requirements
but i guess since its not a primary requirement its ok?
but it still is a secondary requirement so i dont know
i hate mathematics im a simple person and understand simple thing for more im gna search abt nikkah a lil bit more deep jus 4 my personal info its jus that im exploring the religion with so many confusions

[*SALMA*]

i hate mathematics im a simple person and understand simple thing for more im gna search abt nikkah a lil bit more deep jus 4 my personal info its jus that im exploring the religion with so many confusions

U know that happens but the more u research into it the less confusing it will get InshaAllah, coz i was lyk that to start off wid it jus wudnt make sense and tbh honest sumtings still dont, but u have to look at everything as a whole see the prob is sum ppl read sumfing and make their own meaning out of it, but u have to read wat was before that and wat comes afta that to make sense of it, this is de reason y a lot of ppl have misconceptions about Islam, coz they dont research into fully.

[CHULBUL PANDEY]

its true u r absoultley right its jus dat i found only 1 thng without that u cnt get to the core of islam and the thng is 'ISHQ' its jus dat in my opinion is islam is based on ISHQ dats it ..... i cnt explain but no scholar molvi its jus dat its smethng above them where ur brain is nt ready to accpet the impossible its just the heart